What were the hardest games you ever played?

Post by **Squirrelknight** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:58 pm

Yeah, that boat has the most counter-intuitive controls I've ever experienced. That and the fact that the boat section is stupidly long, and the fact that if you screw up just once in that section and you die makes for pure-bad-game-design-related frustration.

Post by **G.Silver** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:40 am

I was able to get through all the story mode courses except what I assume is the last one in F-Zero GX, and I assume it is the last one because I was so sure that the one before it was the last one. I felt like I was pretty good at the game generally but once I switch it onto the master class it's pretty much a lost cause. I was able to beat the easiest circuit (Knight?) a couple times, but that was about the end of that. I assume by using a custom car you can make it a bit easier but I never really got into that after I learned that you don't get a character ending when you do. :P

I also suffered greatly at the hands of F-Zero Advance. I can only assume that playing the master class there is what it feels like to be anally raped, because that's pretty much what it is--the only way I was able to stay ahead of ANY competitors, even the ones who should have lower top speeds than mine and don't even corner as well as I do, was to intercept them and let them ram into me from behind over and over until finally they smash my exhausted vehicle into a wall and they dash away, never to be seen again.

For Megaman, I beat all the ones I cared to back in the day, 1-4 and the first two X games. Megaman X is beyond easy for me now, I've played it (far) more than any other. Guys like Sting Chameleon and Flame Mammoth tremble in fear as soon as I plug the cart in.

I'm not sure what brought this to mind when I've got stuff like Gaiares or Target Earth to compare with, but anyway: Ristar, a game I would ordinarily consider to be of average difficulty, is really, really hard when you play it on the Super setting. I spent roughly 8 hours straight on it--you die in one hit and you have zero lives (so no checkpointing), but you can continue indefinitly. My reward for this preservance was a screen that said "thank you" or something. I never did that again, obviously. I was never able to get past the space stage in Rocket Knight Adventures on the hardest setting either, where you get no lives and no continues and die in one hit, but can at least earn a few 1ups as you progress. I'm sure I could have done the entire game without taking a hit, just not all on one go.

There are very few games (that aren't just plain unfair and/or poorly designed) that I've played that don't seem to me like they can be overcome with preserverance (and the occasional visit to GameFAQs), so even with the hardest of games I tend to think that as long as I keep at it I'll eventually get past those tough spots. Once I've beaten a game I might remember it as challenging, but never really "hard." "Frustrating" is an entirely different adjective altogether, reserved for stuff like Sonic Heroes and Bangaioh's end boss.

Neon Chaos · Post by **Neon Chaos** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:36 am

I think Ninja Gaden is pretty hard. Though, I haven't been much of a gamer lately, so my skills aren't as sharp as they used to be...

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:20 pm

Anything on the Master System. Mega Drive games were for pussies, games on the MS were fucking quests to complete. They didn't call it Master System for nothing, I guess. Or they were just overly-optimistic.

Also:-

Anything Mega Man
Super Mario Sunshine (for the same reasons posted before)
V-Joe on the later difficulties
Any FF game you're not levelled up enough on
Die Hard Trilogy
Both of the Satanic Ecco games
Shining The Holy Ark
Mystical Ninja on the GB (just...don't)
The GB Oddworld game (its worse than you think)
Incredible Crisis (it's fun when you're the beginning guy, but after that it's painful)

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:27 pm

Shit, I forgot all about Viewtiful Joe. I still can't beat those four bosses in a row on Adult. Even if I could, I know for a fact that I could never beat the boss of that level on Adult, Fire Leo or whatever. Hell, it took me awhile to beat him on Kids and I bought one of those things that refills your health when you run out.

CE · Post by CE » Fri Jul 23, 2004 8:07 pm

If you can't beat Viewtiful Joe on Adult, how do you expect to ever get through Ultra-V rated?

j-man · Post by **j-man** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:54 pm

If you can't beat Viewtiful Joe on Adult, how do you expect to ever get through Ultra-V rated?

That's why I don't play it anymore.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:07 pm

I just play it for fun now.
Btw LS, there's a strategy to Fire Leo. Hit the rocks really fast, beat him up, hit the rocks really fast beat him up...
Don't forget to dodge when he goes into his ballerina dance though..

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:22 pm

Yeah, I know the strategy. It was a bitch to do, and doing so only would have taken me like 10 minutes for me to kill him. Instead I did the punch rocks thing, then beat him until he knocked me away. Then I beat him again, etc. It wasn't too bad in Kids, I never got to him in Adult.

Trog13 · Post by **Trog13** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:33 pm

I got a new game after I got to that point in viewtiful joe so i didn't play it for a long time. I have to reteach myself how to play before i can beat those bosses.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:41 pm

I managed to get to Another Joe without dying, but beating the first mode of that boss was so hard that doing it again after not playing for however long was to much work. I figured I could buy a bunch of stuff, but then I was like, eh I'll just play it on Kids.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:30 pm

I think Another Joe would have to be the official "this-guy-is-such-a-bitch" boss of that game. I was up for a long time trying to beat that sonbitch. Somehow, I can now beat him in under a minute...
oops...spoiler!

It's still a pretty fun game though. Believe it or not, it's actually one of the current top games for the Gamecube. And Viewtiful Joe 2 is one of the mose anticipated game for the Cube.

There's also a Viewtiful Joe anime out. Anyone know anything about it? I've seen a few previews/commercials for it, and it actually looks pretty good.

Light Speed · Post by **Light Speed** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:01 pm

I read in Official PlayStation Magazine today that they are making a Cowboy Bebop game. Anyone heard about it?

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:00 pm

I read in Official PlayStation Magazine today that they are making a Cowboy Bebop game. Anyone heard about it?

Forget it, it's from Bandai.

There was actually one on the PS1 a while back. I haven't heard anything about that one, but I doubt it was any good, either.

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:11 pm

Forget it, it's from Bandai.

There really wasn't any hope in the first place, but the game's status has now gone into some alternate dimension, where liscensing badness has reached a badness unparralelled by any badness in our universe. Badness.

Post by **Delphine** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:12 pm

But is it bad?

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 8:24 pm

Possibly.

tron 2.0 · Post by **tron 2.0** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 9:57 pm

Locit wrote:
Forget it, it's from Bandai.
There really wasn't any hope in the first place, but the game's status has now gone into some alternate dimension, where liscensing badness has reached a badness unparralelled by any badness in our universe. Badness.

??? E.T. on the atari 2600???

Locit · Post by **Locit** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 10:03 pm

Oh god-dammit...

Post by **Esrever** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:32 am

At least the Bebop game will have a decent soundtrack, since they somehow managed to con Yoko into doing it.

vidkid7 · Post by **vidkid7** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 4:16 am

Spazz wrote:I think Another Joe would have to be the official "this-guy-is-such-a-bitch" boss of that game. I was up for a long time trying to beat that sonbitch. Somehow, I can now beat him in under a minute...
oops...spoiler!

It's still a pretty fun game though. Believe it or not, it's actually one of the current top games for the Gamecube. And Viewtiful Joe 2 is one of the mose anticipated game for the Cube.

There's also a Viewtiful Joe anime out. Anyone know anything about it? I've seen a few previews/commercials for it, and it actually looks pretty good.

Sorry, Spazz... I'll have to disagree. While Another Joe was fairly difficult, the "OH NO I WANT TO KILL THE DESIGNER WITH MY SWEATY CONTROLLER" boss was definitely Fire Leo.

The final boss was a little too easy... but what the battle lacked in difficulty, it made up for in "supa-awsuma"-ness.

Post by **Esrever** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:54 pm

I play on Adult mode and I get stuck. I play on Kids mode and get bored. Thus, I still haven't made it past level five. ;)

Post by **Green Gibbon!** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:12 pm

I play on Adult mode and I get stuck. I play on Kids mode and get bored. Thus, I still haven't made it past level five.

That puts us in the same boat.

It's your turn to row.

CE · Post by CE » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:20 pm

Green Gibbon! wrote:
I play on Adult mode and I get stuck. I play on Kids mode and get bored. Thus, I still haven't made it past level five.
That puts us in the same boat.

It's your turn to row.

You're both wimps! WIMPS! There is nothing more satisfying then beating Fire Leo on Ultra V rated as Captain Blue.

...except perhaps beating Ikaruga on one credit.

Post by **Segaholic2** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:32 pm

Yeah, right. Like I'm going to believe you've done either.

And if you really have, then you have absolutely no life.